Skipp I appreciate your position but if Obama takes the same position he will aid Sean Lucifer Hannity and his disciples of millions who are fighting to retain the status quo. Hannity, Coulter and their team of racist devils are trying to show that something is wrong with Obama as is with every black person, especially the black male, even if half white, and raised around multi-cultural people and taught to see the world through multi-cultural lenses, including white lenses. They know that if we collectively or individually had any sense of the history of America or any real concern for our survival we must know that many racist and complicit Americans likely have plan to keep using and screwing black folks. They know Barack is smart and must know this fact too therefore he must also have some anger or hidden agenda toward racist and scared white folks worried about any form of pay back or change.

You’re worse than Ray, Walt.  If they don’t agree with you then they’re obviously racist, no matter what actual concerns they may have with the man, right?

Ironghost I don’t care what you think of me or matters I comment on. I suspect you know this though. I don’t live in a make believe world, nor am I running from the truth or afraid to hear it. I’ll put what I am against what you are any day. Neither Ray or Walt is racist or unintelligent, but would certainly have to be unintelligent to accept your views on race. I don’t have anything nice to say about Hannity, Coulter or their blind supporters. These are my views and I’m not afraid to state them. I never heard you call Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh, Lott, Eastland or any obvious or known racist a racist, but you don’t know me or Ray but know I am and thinks Ray is.

I’d love to let you go on making vast, unfounded assumptions about what I watch or like based on how little you really know about me, but it’s getting tiring. So I’ll give you a hand.  I don’t watch TV, except for local news or the rare show I happen to like.  Most days of the week, I just don’t watch it.  I don’t watch any of those grandstanding idiots of political commentary of any persuasion, be they Democratic or Republican.  I just don’t care what they think.  For me to disavow people I don’t know or don’t watch is irrelevant.

You do not know my views on race.  End of Discussion.

Well, now, who attacked who? Either Ray or Walt is quite capable of defending themself and throwing punches with the best of them. It might be hard to beleive, but I don’t fight unless and until justified in doing so. I don’t feel justified yet. I’m giving my opinion based on what appears to be honest and truthful to me. I’m not trying to hurt any feelings, but to not hurt some white folks feelings I would have to be my great, great grandfather. I’m not him and it’s not his old day and time. I give up on you IronGhost. I won’t say anything further to you. Have your way until you go too far.

For clarity sake, let me state that the Hannity’s and Coulter’s followers or beleivers, and the likes, likely think all black folks are angry or should be. I’m not saying we matter of factly are angry or should be. But I certainly have some anger and am proud of it.

After all, black folks are amazingly religious. We have taken everything this country has thrown our way and still acted as christians and divine beings. I can not say the same about some other people who abused us. If we look at history, black folks were treated inhumanely at practically every moment before the Civil War and the Thirteenth Amendment. And during Reconstruction that lasted about 7 years, we were treated alright due to the limited ability of the racists and murders to abuse us. As soon as these racist and murderers got able to abuse us again they started to lynching, abusing and taking property from us like never before. The government once again turned it back on us and went with the popular flow, often led by white sourtherners seeking the status quo. Hell, chaos and rampant abuse inclusive of unimaginably horrible lynchings and murders occurred willy nilly for 50 years or so longer without any redress or recourse or ability to defend or stop it. Hard fought for Civil Rights ushered in a new day, but not an altogether new day. Backlash, as usual, soon followed, and it follows to this day. Hannity, Coulter, their type and followers are the reincarnation of the persons who have always harmed us. I can’t say anything nice about them because I have not seen or heard anything nice about them.

Maybe Ironghost caught me at a bad moment. Maybe I didn’t read clearly. Mybe I overreacted. I’d like to answer his question. If anyone doesn’t agree with me I don’t know what that makes them. It could mean I’m wrong or misguided or wrong; but it could mean so many other things as well, including they’re wrong, in denial, close-minded. If I were intelligent though I’d assume people who take offense would show me where I’m so very wrong, since I’m always open for correction. Ufortunately, attacking, jumping or throwing at me and running denies me the chance and opportunity to be corrected. If folks who know better won’t “learn” me nothing am I to be blamed for being ignorant?

The Washington Post is reporting that Obama wasn’t just fighting to overcome Revern Wright in Indiana but also Rush Limbaugh and his “Operation Limpsticks” where Rush commanded his soldiers to vote for Clinton to “bloody up Obama politically” and prolong the Democratic fight. I can’t believe Hillary would accept any such gifts considering Rush is a low down dirty deformed dog. Excuse me I just learned the charge Rush unleashed was actually called “Operation Chaos.” My bad! Excuse me, please.

Walt I am simply saying that there is no way in heaven or earth that Obama has been engaging in the company of Rev. Wright so much so that he dedicated himself and his family to his congregation and NEVER knew this man had these ideals or ever heard him speak about the things he’s surfacing now.  It’s ridiculous.  And I do not believe if he’s so willing to now disassociate himself with the man that he couldn’t have done that prior to his presidential run.  I mean really, if he disliked the man’s opinions or didn’t agree with them, do you really think he would have entertained them for 20 years???? Do you think he would have allowed his family to fall victim to such antics and opinions?  Do you think he would have stuck around?  And there is nothing about Rev. Wright that gives me the impression that he is at all hush mouthed.  I believe he is very frank about his beliefs and feels strongly enough about them that he doesn’t give a flying fig about Obama or anyone else attacking him because of those beliefs.  Therefore, I do question this man and his ability to be an effective trustworthy leader.  Makes me think he just might be giving us a familiar show of charisma and a pleasant smile.  Makes me wonder if he might have two personalities we need to check for.  He just might get into office and be a closet republican...someone who will serve this country somewhat like our city is being served.  And like Skipp, I started out being weary of the man.  I just couldn’t buy into that “I got an answer for everything” routine he was serving.  It was to familiar to me.  I vowed not to cast my vote in the shadows of hopes and dreams after our mayoral election.  And Obama seemed to fall into that same place.  I gave him a break after he handled himself so well with the racial speech.  But then he goes and does this thing....wow, we just might be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.  On second thought how could it get any worse!

Indeed you make much sense, Queen. I have some friends who think some things I consider crazy, too. I just laugh at them and keep going. We’ve been friends over 30 years too. Everyone likely knows Revern Wright is smart and will speak his mind. Certainly, Obama knew, at least, that too. I beleive Obama, as gifted as he is, is smart enough to receive that which he wants and ignore, discard or reject that he doesn’t want. All of us have to learn to do this just to function efficiently. Obama is trying to walk through a maze that shouldn’t exist for him and wouldn’t exist for a white candidate. A white candidate walks a different kind of maze. Obama is not afforded the oppotunity to walk in a straight line. He has to juggle too many things and avoid so many darts manufactured by the hour. He played the game well at Harvard and in state and federal government. He still loves Wright as he should, but he has to distance himself from Revern Wright for the rest of the run. And Revern Wright needs to chill for a minute. Only a fool would let the opponent keep whipping them with the same stick or matter. In my view, Wright helped him by going on television and making it easy for Obama to denounce him. Obama is trying to win, not just run. Scared and powerful white folks who don’t like blacks anyway (doesn’t include all) want to see a certain kind of brother in charge, if a brother has to be in charge. Most black folks know this! Most of the same kinds of whites would never pick Wright, Jessie, Al, me, Skipp or you to run any thing they had to depend on, and believe me they do depend on the government, although they claim we do. They have a different kind of dependence on government. I wonder why people who will readily claim they have never done anything to harm me would die and go to hell three times before they would let me rule over them. If you haven’t done anything to harm me then why are you so afraid of me having the power to rule over you. 

Sean, Rush, Coulter and the like while evil are smart for sure. They know Obama is human and will have a hard time withstanding everything they and the republican party is throwing and plan to throw his way. If Obama makes it through this maze I’ll the first one to name him the smartest and most talented man alive.

I certainly understand your point, duely noted.  Please understand my hesitation to free him of the tag of coward.  i mean I know the guy is trying to win.  I know he has to give in a bit to get to where he is trying to go.  I just wish that he would have just let Wright make his own bed - if that’s what he’s doing.  Don’t come out and denounce this man for the sake of making folks feel unthreatened by you.  I’m not sure that I wouldn’t feel too convicted by being untrue to myself to ever do anything like that...that is, if he actually did it because he is trying to win instead of doing it to please the masses....because that’s what was expected or directed of him to do.  It’s the same difference between house and field if you ask me.  Which one is he?  Im not sure any more.  I know this race isn’t the same for him as a black man as it would be for a white man.  That’s why it seems detrimental to me that he STAND HIS GROUND.  Make this country understand his stregnth and his power.  Make us accept him and his beliefs because it doesn’t matter in the end.  But when he acts based on what other people with power want him to do, how do I know that this won’t be his mode of operation once he’s in the white house.  I mean my goodness grab your basketballs dude! Not saying risk the election, but leave it alone.  Don’t say anything if you have to say something that isn’t true.  Just let the man talk.  Now I don’t believe him.  NOw I don’t know what he has to hide.  Now I don’t know who he’s for...is he for the men with the money, power, and authority....or is he with the people.  IF the first is the case, then hell we might as well put John McCain in office for what it’s worth.  At least he’s honest about being for the powerful whites.

All I can tell you Queen is what Randall Robinson said he learned from working so hard to free Nelson Mandella. That lesson was : the rich and powerful seldon completely loses. You can make them halt but usually not quit or lose in the long run. Their command of resources (money and intelligence) are too strong to overcome easily. Obama has to play the game to some extent. I beleive he wants to do the things he talks about and will to the extent he has the power.

I certainly hope your right.  We’ve come to far to turn around now.  But I still am a little skeptical.  I mean I don’t expect the man to be militant in his efforts or anything.  I think he has up to this flaw provided a strong enough standing for himself.  It wont cost him the victory.  I just hope that he doesn’t turn out to be a disappointment for those of us who believe he can make this ship take the right course.