It looks like Sen. Obama has decided to cut the ties with Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and I say not a moment too soon. After the events at the Nat’l Press club and the NAACP meeting I can see why. IMHO, Rev. Wright was enjoying his 15 minutes a bit too much and maybe was a bit miffed Sen. Obama didn’t have his back to the degree that he thought he deserved. I say this was a masterful move on the Senators part, he should have done it sooner. The Reverend was the equivalent to Willie Horton in some regards, custom made to play on conservatives (read white) fears. He indeed caricatured the Black Church in America.
I do agree w/ the “chickens coming home to roost” remark by Wright, however. How many times have you heard a right winger say that 9-11 happened because “They hate us for our freedoms”?That’s BS- they hate us because of our heavy-handed actions (and mere presence) in their part of the world, and lets face it, alot of those people (the terrorists) are just straight up crazy f*#!ers.
I just hope that this election cycle the so-called youth vote actually gets off it’s ass and makes a difference.
Thoughts?
Considering he’s going to need as many voters (of all colors) if he plans to withstand a all-out Clinton offensive plus his own personal concerns… it was about time for “Rev.” Wright to get tossed under the bus.
Holy crap- I just caught some more of the Reverends act from the NAACP meeting and that guy is truly cucoo for cocopuffs. The part about black & white kids learning with different parts of their brains was reminicent of some of the crap said by white supremacists years ago. How much has Hillary paid him? (just a thought)
Holy crap- I just caught some more of the Reverends act from the NAACP meeting and that guy is truly cucoo for cocopuffs. The part about black & white kids learning with different parts of their brains was reminicent of some of the crap said by white supremacists years ago. How much has Hillary paid him? (just a thought)
Different parts of the brain? Is he trying to justify the Bell Curve? Whose side is this dude on?
It’s truly hard to say at this time. I need to see if the whole bit is on youtube. There were some truly disturbing things said. I really admire the Senator for his comments today. He’s the most unscripted Presidential candidate I can remember, and I’m 45 (almost). And if he gets elected, we have a hottie First Lady for the first time since Jackie (*bonus).
See we dont ask these white elected officials to distance themselves from “bible believing preachers.” What’s amazing is how when white folk disagree with an outspoken black man, they come together from both sides of the aisle. Black folk, excuse me, African Americans seeking integration and praying for peace will do anything to make friends with these same white folks. In an effort to solidify relationships with white folk, these good and upstanding African Americans will throw anyone under or off of a bus or cliff for a chance in hell of unity. Its funny how we call black men who criticize America crazy and white men who criticize America liberal or conservative.
Color me cuckoo. Color Obama yellow. It is pathetic how this man of character and promise has yet to point to the contradictions in the media about his relationship with Rev. Wright. He has said very little about the endorsements others have received. He sticks to the issues and appears to be more of a mouse than his followers would have you believe. If this is the change and hope he offers, I see why Ive cast blank ballots in the last few elections, (I did vote for Harvey and Mike Gravel).
No way in hell would I run from a friend because these good people and friends of the African Americans tell me that it is beneficial to my career to do so. This aint a Mike Vick situation. Wright aint some crack dealer. He is a minister. No way will I be distanced from anyone from my past just because they disagree. Its really a joke and only reflects the oppression the dominant culture has become so openly willing to display.
Maybe I miss the point. But all I see in Obama is politics as usual…
Are we to assume, Skipp, that you concur with the Reverends beliefs? That AIDS is a gov’t conspiracy and black children think with different parts of their brains than white kids?
black children and white children are different. just as black adults and white adults are different. they cant tell us where HIV comes from...and if you visited my blog the American Government is far from angelic in its experiments or policies. do I agree with Rev. Wright, maybe not to the point of saying white people made HIV. do I accept that white people could have made HIV? ABSOLUTELY! the operative word being could.
Aside from the obvious physical differences, please tell me what differences you believe there are?
I do not accept that HIV could have been made by white people because it has been around a long time and it is known to be carried by primates in Africa. There are plenty of articles explaining how this disease may have jumped from primates to humans. I’ll give you that our government hasn’t been the best to the continent’s inhabitants for the past 200 or so years. I know about Tuskegee and Syphilis as well as the Indians and small pox. However, those have been identified and proven out over time. I do believe in some government conspiracies, but until this is proven, I’ll have to let the government slide on this one.
Obama did what he felt he needed to do. When Rev. Wright goes on TV and states that he is a minister and that Obama is a politician, he is inferring that Obama will say what he needs to say to get elected, afterall that’s what they do. He is basically throwing Obama under the proverbial bus at that point. He follows that up with what Obama calls a “spectacle” with his “performance” he gave for everyone. Personally, I think that the Rev. Wright did well on Bill Moyers and should have conducted himself in that manner in those other venues, but I think his ego may have gotten him.
Okay the kids are different. See in my experience working with children the life experiences make them different. We’re talking in generalities here. We’re not talking about on an individual basis. When I was a child, I played soccer with an all white team. Those children were different than I was. They did not have the same experiences at that point.
You guys still fail to grasp the impact of being black. I guess you will never get it. Maybe you don’t want to.
Well on this jumping from primates to humans thing…they say they don’t know where it comes from. There are also articles that point to problems with the primates to humans thing. So you can let it slide, ill continue to believe that HIV being created is not an impossibility.
Obama sold out. No other way to put it. You been with this guy for 20 years. Ive known brian for ten years (brian married my wife and i), if brian set an orphanage on fire…man brian crazy that aint the dude I knew, if he did it. Well I aint about to deny that I knew him or even throw him under a bus, I wouldn’t defend him. Hell, he set an orphanage on fire.
This guy verbalized his opinion. Obama ran like the wind. Reminds me of a line from Guilty Simpson, before you talk slick/you better know the heart of the people you walk with
See Obama is all soundbites. No character. No way would I deny a guy that said what Wright said. He didn’t do anything wrong. He didn’t say anything crazy. He made white folk and integrationist African-Americans uncomfortable. That was his only crime.
Revern Wright finally went to far and showed us he at least beleives deeply in consiracies. I certainly recognized the fact that he’s a very well read and smart man. He acted as if he forgot who was listening and critguing his performance. Anyway, he finally gave Barack the ammunition to denounce him. Let’s see what new excuses many Americans will now use to shun Obama.
I AM a black person who was born in the Mississippi Delta and knows very well what it is like to be a black person. I totally “get it”. You are absolutely correct when you say that life experiences makes people different. However, I tend to think that those differences are based more on socioeconomic status and environment rather than ethnicity in many instances.
When I was a kid, not only did I play soccer with white kids but I grew up around them as well (raised in a suburb of Dallas). There were only 5 black kids including me and my brother in the whole elementary school that i went to. Sure I had cultural differences but I didn’t think with my right brain while the white kids thought with their left brain. We did many of the same things together and I brought my best friend at the time back to Mississippi and he loved it. He was with nothing but black people and didn’t think twice about it. Because he grew up around black people and ate dinner many nights at my home, he didn’t have to adjust coming into the Mississippi Delta.
Something else along those lines… I would go and stay every summer with my grandparents and my uncles would say that I talk like a white person (my dialect). Now, my uncles and I are both black but we have differences not based upon race.
Obama sold out in your eyes, not mine. Other people on this board and I share the belief that some of the things that Rev. Wright said was wrong. That doesn’t make us right, but it doesn’t make us wrong. It’s an opinion. The Rev. Wright knew he was going to cause Obama more “drama” by going on tour. He could have just left it alone but he didn’t. So if the Rev. knew that Obama was going to catch hell for it, why did he do it? Friendship goes both ways.
I think what you have witnessed is just in-house fighting between possible former friends.
By the way… what is an integrationist African-American? I believe that I may be one. :-)
I am usually with you Skipp, but although I believe as you seem to that a good bit of what Wright has said is true (he was tackling out of bounds on the AIDs theory and black children’s learning but on target that our foreign policy over the past sixty years has provoked hatred --- even in Europe much less among Jihadis) --- Wright was out of bounds. If you have Christian love for your brother you do not put your self interest first and foremost. That is what Wright did. there is a time and season for everything.
It would be insane for Obama to associate himself publicly with such outlandish and indefensible positions. We must be practical. We cannot just lash out blindly. I respect where you are coming from, but I believe that calling O a sellout is very extreme --- a litte Wrightish.
If it were hockey, Rev. would have to sit in the penalty box. I would like to see Obama be more of a fighter. He needs to learn to counterpunch better. When they start talking about Rev. Wright I would acknowledge their concern and quickly pivot to point out that McCain still cherishes the endorsement of the right wing nut pastor Hagee who blamed the victims of Katrina for their alleged “sins” and has mocked poor people. Sop much for compassionate conservatism. maybe he is just keeping his powder dry for later.
I agree with Skipp and Whitley and maybe everybody else too. It’s unfortunate that crazy and screwed-up white people are willing to let Wright’s words harm Obama. They have to know Obama didn’t make those comments and has denied believing many or any of them. I aver this is no more than backroom emoting or secret deduction that every black person has something wrong with them and shouldn’t have a job of this nature. Why else would reasonable people be open to listening to gutter or develish trash like Hannity, Coulter or other racist or prejudice republicans with the history of the republican party of later years. You’re either in complicity with this or against it.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Wright or his opinions concerning the proclivity of America to overtly and covertly harm black folks. There is much history to back him up. Some things we will never know about for sure, and most white folks will say we (meaning they) couldn’t ever do such a thing, and everyone else with a good sense of history will say I don’t know about that. This is all Wright was doing.
The sad thing to me is that for Obama to get the job he will have to kiss many white behinds he wouldn’t otherwise approach or even look at. And I’m talking about whites who would demand something from him that they wouldn’t demand from a white person. If he becomes president he will have an impossible task before him. If he fails, we may need 400 more years to get another black president. If he performs on an average basis we will forever hear a white person could have done better no matter George Bush’s dismal and one of a kind nonperformance. If he performs excellently, it will be called a fluke, luck or reasoned away as a presidency without any challeneges or lasting impact. Irrespective of the foregoing I want Obama to win so we can see how he will perform and how America and the world will react to him. Not to mention my firm belief that he will handle the challenges and confrontations of America as good as anyone else will.
Hillary has gone stone-ass crazy. She would probably bomb or attack Iran or venequela right now just to show white America she’s the crazy-ass white woman for the job.
